On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:25:00AM +0100, MRAB wrote: > On 21/04/2011 23:36, Westley Martínez wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 05:11:32PM +0100, MRAB wrote: > >>On 21/04/2011 14:58, Westley Martínez wrote: > >>>On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:02:08AM +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >>>>Ben Finney, 20.04.2011 02:06: > >>>>>Dan Stromberg writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, geremy condra wrote: > >>>>>>>When you say 'hacking', you mean.... ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Presumably he meant the real meaning of the word, not what the press > >>>>>>made up and ran with. > >>>>> > >>>>>To be fair, the press already had its own pejorative meaning of “hack” > >>>>>before the engineering and computing term > >>>> > >>>>Not anywhere outside of the English language that I'm aware of, > >>>>though. In German, it's a computing-only term that's used in both > >>>>contexts by those who understand why the pointer is moving over the > >>>>screen when moving the mouse, and almost exclusively in a bad > >>>>context by those who write news paper articles (and, consequently, > >>>>by those who innocently read them). > >>>> > >>>>Stefan > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > >>> > >>>O Lord, I'd hope we'd be speaking for English here. But really, hack > >>>has always been a negative term. It's original definition is chopping, > >>>breaking down, kind of like chopping down the security on someone elses > >>>computer. Now I don't know where the term originally came from, but the > >>>definition the media uses is quite a fair use. Why should we call > >>>ourselves hackers anyways? I don't smoke. I'm no different from anyone > >>>else, I just happen to know a lot about computers. Should we call > >>>people who know a lot about the economy hackers, too, or perhaps we > >>>should call them economists.... > >> > >>As I understand it, "hacking" is about not doing the job "properly". > >>When trying to make something, a hacker will use the equivalent of duct > >>tape to hold things together. > >> > >>A computer hacker doesn't write the requirements of the software or > >>draw Jackson Structured Programming diagrams, etc, but just thinks > >>about what's needed and starts writing the code. > > > >That's a cowboy coder. > > A cowboy coder is someone who's bad at coding, a hacker is someone > who's good at it.
Wrong, sir! Wrong! Cowboys are awesome. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
