Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> writes: > What I'm saying is this: cmp is already removed from sorting, and we > can't change the past. Regardless of whether this was a mistake or > not,
No it's not already removed, I just tried it (in Python 2.6, which is called "Python" for short) and it still works. It's not "removed" from Python until basically all Python users have migrated and "Python" essentially always means "Python 3". Until that happens, for Python 2 users, Python 3 is just a fork of Python with some stuff added and some stuff broken, that might get its act together someday. I see in the subject of this thread, "Guido rethinking removal of cmp from sort method" which gives hope that one particular bit of breakage might get fixed. > the fact is that it is gone, and therefore re-adding it is a new feature > request. Those who want cmp functionality in Python 3 have three broad > choices: ... > (3) port the feature that they want into a third-party module, ... > I'm suggesting that #3 is a more practical, useful approach ... > Having to do: > from sorting import csort ... > If fans of functional programming can live > with "from functools import reduce", fans of cmp can live with that. If "sorting" is in the stdlib like functools is, then the similarity makes sense and the suggestion isn't so bad. But you're proposing a 3rd party module, which is not the same thing at all. "Batteries included" actually means something, namely that you don't have to write your critical applications using a library base written with a Wikipedia-like development model where anybody can ship anything, where you're expected to examine every module yourself before you can trust it. Stuff in the stdlib occasionally has bugs or gaps, but it has a generally consistent quality level, is documented, and has been reviewed and reasonably sanity checked by a central development group that knows what it's doing. Stuff in 3rd party libraries has none of the above. There are too many places for it to go wrong and I've generally found it best to stick with stdlib modules instead of occasionally superior modules that have the disadvantage of coming from a third party. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list