On Feb 2, 2:41 pm, Corey Richardson <kb1...@aim.com> wrote: > I don't recall ever doing anything but injecting my honest opinion. If > my opinion may be flawed (or appears to be flawed, I usually don't > elaborate on my ideas enough), so be it.
Yes you are correct. When i added you to the troll list that was by accident. You are obviously not a troll and probably not a flamer either. Anyone willing to offer help is a moderate so there you go... py> moderate_group.append(flamer_group.pop("Corey Richardson")) > Will you be forking IDLE and setting up some sort of tracker for > improvements? No because we already have a bug tracker set up for IDLE. Why create another one? We just need the "powers that be" to start accepting major changes to the IDLE library at hand. There is not even enough interest to get minor changes committed. A fork would be the best idea however i am not going to start it alone. If someone else wants to start a fork be my guest, i will be happy to help out once the fork is established. However i am always very reluctant to start these things because the powers that be have not even expressed even the *smallest* interest in change. Sure Raymond, and Terry are interested but how about the others? We have yet to hear from the other BIG players. All we have gotten so far is trolling, threating, and negativity from a few very loud naysayers. Now, after all this uphill battle i have fought only two brave souls (Corey and Richard) have showed an interest in actually doing something. And believe me i thank them! These are great people! But were is the blessing from on high? Where is Steve Holden on this? Is he too busy with $295.00 per session O-Reilly classes to stop by and give his blessing. Were is py-dev on this? I know these folks have *real* work to do however a quick "we're with you guys!", or a simple "break a leg!" would be very helpful. And last but not least, were oh were has our BDFL gone? For years he has hidden his face from us at c.l.py. We have walked in the shadows for far too long Guido. Were is YOUR opinion on these things. When will you weigh in on these very important issues? When! Are we not worthy of a simple: "Yes, improving IDLE's code base sounds good to me." or a simple: "Sorry, i don't think we should worry about that because X,Y,Z." Come on Guido we need your input already! If some big players would show even the smallest support for improving IDLE (or any module) then that positivity would propagate down to the rest of us. The naysayers would stop trolling and the silent majority would start getting involved. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list