On Jan 27, 2:00 pm, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote: > On 1/27/2011 12:54 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > Everything that's not accessible is not recommended. > > By you. We get that. > > >Tkinter should be at most accepted because there is no better solution, > > As I said at the beginning of this thread, tkinter is currently the only > option. What would have happened if there had been a real competitor > when 3.0 was being developed? What would happen in the future if one > were developed? I do not think anyone really knows. > > > at least for Python 3, not because it is the recommended solution. > > AS far as I know, Guido has never recommended any particular gui and I > believe he has avoided doing so when asked.
Yes but his silence speaks louder than words. He is saying " While i won't defend Tkinter publicly, i won't promote any others as well". This is a standard response you'd expect from a politician. These types of questions avoid dealing with the elephant in the room. We can't just assume that Tkinter is best for Python just because "Guido" does not want to "ruffle" some features. Actually if you look back over the very few post where Guido did offer an argument for Tkinter you'll the find the argument to be very weak. And to make matters worse no one has the balls to question or argue Guido. Now whilst i greatly respect Guido i will not hesitate for one second to call him on weak arguments. Case in point: Just recently i posted one of Guido's such arguments in another thread and responded to the argument. The original thread was from roughly eight years ago. Yes this is how long it has been since Guido offered argument for Tkinter. Does he honestly think that the world has not changed significantly in eight years as to render Tkinter into legacy? Does he also want us to believe that the world has not changed dramatically in the last twenty years since Tkinter was introduced? I have yet to get a response for his weak argument eight years ago and i can expect we will hear nothing now. My point is this: If you (Guido) are going to offer weak arguments then you must answer challenges to these weak arguments with facts. So I now challenge Guido to inject a solid argument for keeping Tkinter and i challenge him now. Before the entire world we will hash this out once and for all. Just be aware Guido, that i will NOT be afraid to question your facts and present good arguments based on fact. If you *do* inject your opinion on this very important subject matter --and do so here in a public forum-- then i believe the community will take you more seriously. And *i* will take you more seriously. All of your subordinates are unable to challenge me. Will you answer the challenge Guido van Rossum? Will you? The community at large needs to know what Guido van Rossum thinks. You owe us that much Guido. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
