On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:45:39 +0000, Seebs wrote: > On 2010-11-05, Steven D'Aprano <st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au> > wrote: >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:17:35 +0000, Seebs wrote: >>> That was the thing which bit me the worst. I had a fairly large block >>> of code in a first-pass ugly program. I wanted to start refactoring >>> it, so I moved a big hunk of code into a method (with plans to further >>> refactor). It took about fifteen minutes to redo the logic. > >> Well there's your problem -- you are relying on tools that operate by >> magic. > > Wrong.
Really? Then how did the logic get screwed up from a mere copy-and-paste operation? In context (which you deleted), you were agreeing with Mark Wooding who wrote: "I /do/ have a significant problem with cutting and pasting code in Python. In most languages, I can haul a chunk of code about, hit C-M-q, and Emacs magically indents the result properly. This is, unfortunately, impossible with Python. It has caused me real bugs, and I have to be extra careful to fix the indentation up." [Aside: he isn't having problems with cutting and pasting code in Python, but in Emacs.] You *agreed with him*, and related your story. In context, I think it was perfectly reasonable to conclude that you too used C-M-q in Emacs, which then "magically indents the result". Mark's words, not mine. But perhaps you were using Notepad, and you just hit Ctrl-V, and something else mangled the code so badly you needed to spend 15 minutes re-creating the program logic. I am open to correction either way. >> Rather than re-create the logic, why not just hit Undo and then >> re-paste the code *without* the magic auto-reformat? Half a second, to >> undo and re- paste, followed by 10 or 20 seconds to select the >> appropriate lines and *explicitly* re-indent the lines to the correct >> level. > > There was no magic auto-reformat. Where did you invent that from? Why > are you making stuff up which I never said or referred to? Then how did the logic get mangled from a simple copy and paste operation? What god-awful editor are you using that can't copy and paste text without mangling it? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list