On 10/24/2010 9:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > On 25/10/2010 02:19, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In message<mailman.187.1287916654.2218.python-l...@python.org>, Dave >> Angel >> wrote: >> >>> On 2:59 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> In message >>>> <mailman.154.1287832721.2218.python-l...@python.org>, Dave Angel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Presumably the original pythonw.exe was called that because it's >>>>> marked >>>>> as a windows-app. In win-speak, that means it has a gui. Applications >>>>> that are not so-marked are console-apps, and get a console created if >>>>> they weren't already started from one. That's where >>>>> stdin/stdout/stderr >>>>> get pointed. >>>> >>>> Which is completely backwards, isn’t it? >>>> >>> No. GUI programs are marked as win-app, so w stands for "Windows". Non >>> GUI programs run in the console. >> >> You mean “GUI console”. So non-GUI apps get a GUI element whether they >> want >> it or not, while GUI ones don’t. That’s completely backwards. > > No, it's not. The fact that the console is also a GUI window is an > implementation detail: it happens to be displayed within a GUI > environment.
and, in fact, the console is only a GUI window in a windowed system. It might be one of the console emulation windows that init starts under linux, or even a terminal connected to a computer by a serila line, for heavens sake. Let's not go overboard looking for things to disagree about ;-) regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon 2011 Atlanta March 9-17 http://us.pycon.org/ See Python Video! http://python.mirocommunity.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
