On 6/14/10 7:05 PM, rantingrick wrote: > """The Place geometry manager is the simplest of the three general > geometry managers provided in Tkinter. It allows you explicitly set > the position and size of a window, either in absolute terms, or > relative to another window.""" > >> I've no interest in talking about "place"; absolute positioning is >> simply pointless to me. > > That argument ceases to be "relevant". See the triple quoted text for > an explanation as to why it is irrelevant and based on ignorance.
I didn't make an argument, so it can't be relevant or not. It remains pointless. >> unless I've been long mistaken in pack not >> having a proportional option. A combination of "fill/expand" and >> "anchor" do most of everything else, though, that wx's flags and >> alignment options. > > <snip code> > >> You can rewrite something very similar in Tkinter, sure. And you'll have >> shorter names, and maybe you can argue 'pack' is more pythonic then >> 'SetSizerProps', but debating API pythonicity is just uneventful. > > What is this fascination with "pack" all about Stephan? The "pack" > geometry manager is the least useful of the three. Grid is your most > useful "all around" manager for laying out complex widget displays. > However that fact is not obvious to most Tkinter noobs because they do > not know about the "rowconfigure" and "columnconfigure" options that > allow for dynamic resizing of widgets within a container based on a > weight factor. There are also options for "sticky" behavior. The > following is my suggestions on when to use and *not* to use grid, > pack, and/or place. I wasn't aware of [row|column]configure, no: however, I am dubious of how it directly applies. Consider this relatively simple user interface layout: http://ixokai.io/get/layout-grid.jpg In this context, we have two principle columns, A and B. A has a set size, B grows to fill the rest of the dialog. Inside of A, there are four items in a vertical line. The bottom which takes up half of the total vertical space (poorly drawn, trust me, F should be half :)), and the top three share the rest. Inside of B, G is one third the size of H. The layout should fully resize itself as the window is resized. How would you implement that in tkinter? It sounds like you'd have a grid with a pair of one-column grids, which is slightly bizarre seeming. > The only people who like Wx geometry managers are the same who have no > experience with Tkinter's beautiful geometry managers. I encourage you > to investigate them for yourself. If anyone needs help feel free to > send me a private email or ask here on c.l.p. And exactly what's so great about it? All of the things you said it can do, wx can do easily. -- Stephen Hansen ... Also: Ixokai ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io ... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/
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