On May 13, 6:39 pm, Steven D'Aprano <ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 08:06:52 -0700, Patrick Maupin wrote: > > If I download an Ubuntu > > ISO, burn it and give it away (let's say I give away 100 copies, just to > > remove the fair use defense), then I have violated the GPL. I provided > > chapter and verse on this; go look it up. > > I'm sorry, I can't see where you have provided "chapter and verse", or > even a URL.
In the original message, I wrote "In the case of GPL v3, for example, Ubuntu lets me download code under 6d, so if I download it and burn it, I would have to use 6a or 6b; if I had actually received a CD from Ubuntu, I might be able to use 6c, but not if I downloaded it." I thought it was clear those were references to the license clauses. > >> If you compiled the CD yourself, and failed to provide a written offer > >> on the CD, then yes absolutely you would be in violation of the licence > >> terms, and shame on you. > > > Not relevant. > > You didn't specify whether the "Linux CD" you were distributing was a > mere copy of an existing CD , or one you created yourself, so you will > pardon me for covering both possibilities. Well, in the section I just quoted, I did mention "Ubuntu"... > >> The GPL doesn't require you to force source code on those who don't > >> want it, but it does require you to make it available if they ask, and > >> for you to notify them appropriately of this fact. You don't even have > >> to explicitly tell your friend he can have the source code. You just > >> have to make sure that the written offer is available on the disk you > >> give him. > > > There is no written offer on the disk, because I burned it from Ubuntu's > > repository. It really is that simple -- if I give away copies I've made > > of Ubuntu, I've violated the GPL. > > No, I think this use-case would count as "propagation without conveying", > since you are merely acting as a mechanical proxy between your friend(s) > and Ubuntu. No, I'm actually creating a copy and distributing it (in GPL v3 terminology, conveying it), especially since my friends don't specifically ask for Ubuntu, and I'm foisting it off on them (especially if I burn 10 CDs at a time so I have one if I need it). GPL v2 also has similar rules, and there's lots of v2 licensed software on the Ubuntu CD. > I will admit that the GPL FAQs are not as clear about this matter as they > should be. I think it's quite clear, although a bit of a tedious slog. But since you want a URL, try this: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#UnchangedJustBinary > > Unless you can cite some authority > > that tells me I'm wrong and gives real reasons. I actually quoted > > chapter and verse from the license, but you chose to ignore that and > > make unsubstantiated claims. > > I'm sorry, I can't find where you have quoted "chapter and verse" from > the licence, so I can't comment. Well, I just re-copied what I posted, and added a URL from the FAQ. Regards, Pat -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
