> > > Conclusion 1: if PHP is anything as awful as the manual, it is not for me. > > the whole idea that turning the manual into a wiki or a forum will solve all > problems is extremely naive. >
Wha? I haven't done PHP for a couple of years, but when I really needed documentation, the PHP docs were well organized, and told me exactly what I needed, and when I didn't find it in the official part of the docs, invariably someone had run into the same problem I had and posted the solution at the end of the docs page. It really is great when you are actually doing PHP and it's your main resource. Even if you're just critisizing something that you're vaguely familliar with, for the fun of it, you're not actually critisizing it as much as calling it poo poo without any real world examples of why it "is extremely naive" or what would work better... One of the things I like about the python list is that it generally has a high signal to noise ratio, but this is just noise... -Jim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list