Stephen Hansen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Alf P. Steinbach <al...@start.no > <mailto:al...@start.no>> wrote: > > Right. > > "pass by value" is a lower level notion. > > And as you show below, in the paragraph marked [1], it can be used > to describe call by sharing very succinctly and precisely, just as I > did... ;-) > > > No. There's nothing at all succinct or precise about either "value" or > "reference" when speaking of programming languages, and using both > together just compounds that. They are loaded words. The phrase "call my > value where value is an object reference" is not clear, not obvious, not > helpful. It requires far too much explanation of every single word > there, depending on the background of who you are speaking to, to > explain how it does not exactly use any of the words in a way which the > person may be expecting, and making sure they understand that it does > not imply anything that those words usually imply. > > I'm not even going to bother further-- I shouldn't have to begin with-- > your entire post is full of arguments with no more weight then, "I say > this means that, and its clearer" with absolutely no regard for the fact > that all of these words have weight and meaning to the world outside of > your head. > [several paragraphs-worth of bothering further]
So you didn't believe me when I said > Of course this won't make the slightest difference. "'When I use a > word,' said Humpty ..." regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon is coming! Atlanta, Feb 2010 http://us.pycon.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVENTS: http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
