Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * Steve Holden: [...] >> Alf: >> >> This topic was discussed at great, nay interminable, length about a year >> ago. I'd appreciate it if you would search the archives and read what >> was said then rather than hashing the whole topic over again to nobody's >> real advantage. > > Well that's my point, and thanks for backing me up on that :-): it's > very simple, and as demonstrated can be expressed in 10 words or less > (plus perhaps a terminology reference, as I did above), so all that > discussion and in particular the lengthy article at effbot serves as > obfuscation and nothing else. > Please don't assume I was trying to support you. Your remarks showed considerable ignorance of issue that were extremely nuanced. Whatever point you were trying to make was lost in your self-aggrandizing disrespect of Fredrik Lundh, a software engineer of some repute with a long history of contribution to Python. The fact that your post was basically a restatement of one of the several competing positions in that thread makes it no more right than any of the others.
> By the way, most every programming language has some corner like that, > something that is utterly simple but somehow has some kind of > obfuscation-meme attached. > Why thank you for the education. Somehow in my 40-odd years of programming I had quite overlooked that fact. Which helps how? > In C++ it's "call" and "constructor". It doesn't help that the > language's standard lays down the law on it, it doesn't help that the > language's creator has laid down the law, it doesn't help that it's > utterly and completely simple. Somehow newbies and even some experienced > people manage to create their own terminological nightmare and drawing > conclusions about reality from that misguided obfuscated view, and then > discussing it up and down and sideways. > Which IMHO you have done little to assist. Just how exactly *do* we succeed in asking you not to discuss something? yours intemperate-ly - steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon is coming! Atlanta, Feb 2010 http://us.pycon.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVENTS: http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list