On Jan 15, 6:24 am, Mark Roseman <m...@markroseman.com> wrote: > Peter <peter.milli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Besides, the book is mainly about using Python with Tkinter - and > > Tkinter hasn't changed that much since 2000, so I believe it is just > > as relevant today as it was back then. > > I'd say that Tkinter has substantially changed - with the introduction > of the 'ttk' themed widgets. I cover these in my tutorial > athttp://www.tkdocs.com > > Mark
But is the ttk themed widgets a "change" to Tkinter or an "addition/ improvement"? i.e. does the themed widgets invalidate any of the Tkinter stuff in Grayson's book? That certainly isn't my impression of the themed widgets, I was of the impression that the themed widgets just added some convenient widgets (such as Scale, Spinbox etc) which a user could find in other GUI frameworks, for example, Pmw supplemented the basic Tkinter widget set and offered some (essential IMO) widgets that were missing in Tkinter - such as the Notebook widget. But I'll bow to your greater knowledge on the point on whether ttk themed widgets are a 'change' to Tkinter. Lets face it, if somebody wants to get up to speed on Python and GUI development then the book is still very, very relevant and necessary (IMO). The documentation for the themed widgets still leaves a lot to be desired from the perspective of somebody who wants to start using Python to create GUI applications. As Lord Eldritch reminded me in his post, the book even has a section on Pmw - which is what I use mainly for my GUI applications - because Tkinter was missing some vital widgets that are now available in the ttk themed set. Personally I will start to incorporate some of the ttk themed widgets into my applications - but Pmw will remain the 'basis' for my GUI's as the entire framework (IMO) supports a class oriented approach that allows easy creation of extensible and reconfigurable (at run time) GUI interfaces. Ultimately Grayson does a good job of providing information and reference to toolkit(s) that allow a beginner to quickly get up to speed on producing a GUI using Python. It is purely up to the user afterwards as to whether they stick with Tkinter/Pmw (and now the ttk themed set) or venture into wxPython or Jython (as two examples of GUI 'systems' that provide 'better' facilities to a Python programmer). Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
