On Nov 17, 12:20 pm, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There's also the question, if you say that an object is different from >> its value, of determining what the value's value is ... > > This one is easy - its obviously the value that is returned when the value > is returned when you call for the value that you are interested in, unless > you are interested in the bare value, in which case its the value that is > returned.
Except of course, values are *never* returned, only objects. This is why the concept of an object's intrinsic value is important. I now understand that at some point when chasing values, you will eventually[*1] encounter an object with no intrinsic value or one for which you have to rely on repr() to tell you its value; there is no other way to examine it from the "outside" since (in C-Python) its value in in a form only C-level code can understand. [*1] Excluding circularly linked chains of values of course. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
