On Oct 22, 5:14 pm, Philip Semanchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Philip Semanchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >>> One oversight I noticed the multiprocessing module docs is that a
> >> semaphore's acquire() method shouldn't have a timeout on OS X as
> >> sem_timedwait() isn't supported on that platform. (You note OS X's
> >> lack of
> >> support for sem_getvalue() elsewhere.)
>
> > Please file a ticket or updatehttp://bugs.python.org/issue4012so I
> > don't loose it, my memory is increasingly lossy. Good catch.
>
> I updated issue4012.
>
> >> A question - how do you handle the difference in error messages on
> >> various
> >> platforms? For instance, sem_trywait() raises error 35, "Resource
> >> temporarily unavailable" under OS X but error 11 under Ubuntu.
> >> Right now I'm
> >> just passing these up to the (Python) caller as OSErrors. This
> >> makes it
> >> really hard for the Python programmer to write cross-platform code.
>
> > If you look at the code, we're pretty much raising OSError - it's
> > possible we could enhance this in later versions, but given MP is
> > supposed to be a cross-platform as possible and protect the user from
> > the seedy underbelly of semaphores/pipes/etc - when an OSError does
> > occur, it's generally a bug in our code, not the users.
>
> Gotcha. I had a look at the code, and you're testing for errno ==
> EAGAIN when sem_trywait() fails. This is correct for OS X and Ubuntu
> (the platforms I mentioned above) and probably most other Unices. I
> just don't have confidence that it will be true across all platforms,
> esp. ones to which I don't have access like AIX and big-iron systems
> that support POSIX. Maybe I am just taking defensive programming too
> far.
>
>
>
> >> The only solution I can think of (which I haven't coded yet) is to
> >> compile &
> >> run a series of small C programs during setup.py that test things
> >> like
> >> sem_trywait() to see what errors occur, and provide those constants
> >> to my
> >> main .c module so that it can detect those errors exactly and wrap
> >> them into
> >> a specific, custom error for the Python caller.
>
> >> Any thoughts on this?
>
> > That's actually (while feeling hacky) a possibly sensible idea, the
> > problem is is that you'd need to maintain documentation to tell users
> > the exceptions for their platform.
>
> If I pass all errors up as OSError, yes, that will be true. But that's
> actually the situation I was trying to avoid.
>
> By generating the error at install time, I can see exactly what
> platform X returns in that situation (e.g. 11). Then I can create a
> #define something like this:
> #define ERRNO_WHEN_CALLING_SEM_TRYWAIT_ON_A_LOCKED_SEMAPHORE 11
>
> My main .c module can then test for errno ==
> ERRNO_WHEN_CALLING_SEM_TRYWAIT_ON_A_LOCKED_SEMAPHORE and wrap that in
> a custom error, like posix_ipc.SemaphoreBusyError.
>
> Again, maybe I'm just taking defensive programming too far. I've been
> bitten by other cross-platform inconsistencies at the C API level and
> I'm trying to get the jump on them here.
>
Re the error codes, the OS-specific code can be mapped to an OS-
agnostic(?) code. On Windows there's a Windows-specific subclass of
OSError, WindowsError, containing the Windows error code winerror as
well as errno which is inherited from OSError.
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