Marco Bizzarri wrote:

Just a question: "generic functions" are not meant in the sense of
"generic functions" of CLOS, am I right?
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it's meant in exactly that sense: len(L) means "of all len() implementations
available to the runtime, execute the most specific code we have for the
object L".


It is a generic functions like a CLOS one, as long as we remain to one
parameter.

I mean, there will be just one implemenatation of

foo(bar, man)

which the python interpretr can find; am I right?

Let's see if I can sort this out without causing even more confusion.

The Python *language* doesn't support generic functions in the CLOS sense, but a given Python *implementation* may use a dispatching machinery to select the best possible implementation for any call to a built-in function.

Or in other words, the len() function shouldn't just be seen as a function that *always* does

    def len(L):
        return L.__len__()

because if you look under the covers, it might be more like (using a hypothetical Python dialect):

    def generic len(L: list):
        return list::get_size(L) # fast internal dispatch

    def generic len(L: tuple):
        return tuple::get_size(L) # fast internal dispatch

    def generic len(L: object):
        return L.__len__() # fallback behaviour, using method dispatch

where "len" represents a plurality of possible "len" implementations.

How the dispatching is actually done is up to the specific Python implementation; CPython, for example, offers a "slot" mechanism for types implemented in C that's quite a bit faster than the method call machinery. And the slot mechanism isn't always single dispatch. For example, internal getattr(obj, name) calls use one of several slots, depending on what "name" is.

Other Python implementations may use different approaches, but the point remains: a builtin function "operation(a, b, c)" isn't always mapped to "a.__operation__(b, c)" by the runtime; code that uses the latter form may be less efficient. And it's definitely less Pythonic.

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