On 2008-09-04 11:14, Kay Schluehr wrote: > On 4 Sep., 10:31, "M.-A. Lemburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote: >> >>> 3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the >>> merge of web- and desktop applications with systems like Adobe AIR, >>> JavaFX, Google Gears and MS Silverlight is the future of frontend >>> development. With the exception of IronPython and Silverlight, Python >>> hasn't even entered this game and no one knows if it ever will. >> Actually, it has already and quite some time ago: >> >> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=208528 >> >> The recipe is simple: use Python for the business logic, database >> interfacing, etc and have it talk to a Flex front-end via XML-RPC >> or REST. > > Python is still server-side in this scenario and plays no role in UI > definitions.
That depends on how you design the application. It is well possible to have Python drive the GUI by sending the required details to the Flex front-end via XML (ie. data-driven GUIs). > So one doesn't get more than e.g. Django apps that > respond to HTTP requests triggered by JavaScript forms except that > JavaScript+HTML+Browser is replaced by Flex = AS3+MXML+FlashPlayer. You really can't compare the Flex stack to an AJAX stack. Flex has a lot more to offer for GUI programming than AJAX, it also doesn't suffer from the problems of AJAX having to support several different sets of browser or library bugs. We switched from an AJAX approach to a Flex-based approach last year and never even considered moving back again. > The role of Python is somewhat arbitrary. This could change only if > Python becomes a client side language executed by AVM, V8 etc. like > IronPython in Silverlight. > > About separating UI from application logics by assigning functionality > to different general purpose languages I have to admit that I don't > think it is such a great idea ... In my experience, Flex + Python gives you the best of both worlds, the nice GUI features of Flex and the efficiency of Python for the business logic. A long time ago, there was a Python plugin for Netscape which allowed you to run Python straight in the browser. Perhaps it's time to revive such an idea... but then you're still missing out on the GUI part, since you're still stuck with what the browser has to offer in terms of widget support. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Sep 04 2008) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ :::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
