Andrew Lee schreef:
notbob wrote:
I'm not posting this just to initiate some religious flame war, though
it's
the perfect subject to do so. No, I actaully want some serious advice
about
these two languages and since I think usenet is the best arena to find
it,
here ya' go.
So, here's my delimna: I want to start a blog. Yeah, who doesn't.
Yet, I
want learn the guts of it instead of just booting up some wordwank or
whatever. I started to learn python, but heard php was easier or
faster or
more like shell scripting or... fill in the blank. Anyway, so I
change over
to learning php. Then I run across that blog, Coding Horror, and start
reading articles like this:
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001119.html
Now what? Go back to python. Soldier on with php? What do I know? Not
much. I can setup mysql and apache,, but don't know how to use 'em,
really.
I use emacs and run slackware and can fumble my way through bash scripts,
but I can't really write them or do lisp. I've taken basic basic and
basic
C, but am barely literate in html. Sometimes it seems overwhelming,
but I
persevere because it's more fun/challenging than video games, which
bore me
to tears.
Well, that's my actual question, then. Is php really so bad I'm just
wasting my time? Or is it really the quickest way to blog functionality?
Would I be better served in the long run learning python, which claims
to be
easy as pie to learn/program (still looks hard to me). I admit I'm no
code
geek. But, I'm not completely brain dead, either, and I need
something to
keep my geezer brain sparking. What say ye?
nb
Personally, I believe PHP would get you more productive more quickly for
a blog, but it is a potentially brain damaging language in terms of
really getting your juices flowing with programming. It is not a
general purpose language and suffers from all the limitations of of a
tool designed for one job. If you are interested in programming and the
blog is your path to that, stick with Python! In particular, immerse
yourself in mod_python or look at a framework like Django or Pylons --
the learning curve is steep for any of these technologies but they are a
full meal compared to saltine cracker and water of PHP.
Some statement Andrew.
Care to clarify that a little?
I don't know much Python (aside from a little in ZOPE), but I did a lot
of Java, Perl, VB/ASP (juck), and a little C before I learned PHP.
I stopped using all in favor of PHP.
If your statement says PHP is abused a lot, yes. Because it is
relatively easy to learn for new programmers, a lot of bad PHP coders
exist.
But I saw them too in Java/Perl/etc.
And I am sure you can find them too coding Python.
It is perfectly possible to write clean good code in PHP.
Why do you say it 'tastes less' then Python?
I don't want to start a religious war, but am curious.
Who knows, maybe I'll dump PHP and start using Python after your
answer. ;-)
Regards,
Erwin Moller
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