Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you don't like Python 3, DON'T USE IT.
That's the plan.
Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've read this position a number of times in this and related threads,
>and it overlooks one constituency of Python developers - those who
>develop and support modules for use by other Python users. As the
>supporter of pyparsing, I really can't just "not use" Py3 - ignoring
>Py3 means shutting out/holding back those of my users who do want to
>use it, and pretty much consigning my module to eventual dustbin
>status.
Eh. You can ingore it until your users start asking for it.
>Ideally, I can implement some form of cross-compatible code
>so that I need maintain only a single code base, and I have managed to
>do so on a number of fronts (with the help of Robert A. Clark):
>- add support for both __bool__ and __nonzero__ (__nonzero__ calls
>__bool__, so that upgrading to Py3 actually saves a function call)
Doing sometthing like the following would save the function call in
both cases:
class C(object):
def __bool__(self):
return False
__nonzero__ = __bool__
>- convert isinstance(x,basestring) to isinstance(x,__BASESTRING__) and
>dynamically set __BASESTRING__ to basestring or str
>- similar treatment for sys.maxint/maxsize -> __MAX_INT__
I don't thiink using double underscores here is appropriate. It suggests
it's part of the language. Since "basestring" is no longer part of the
language, you could do:
if "basestring" not in globals():
basestring = str
>Overall, I think I'm getting off pretty easy, but then pyparsing is a
>small module with very limited use of the standard lib.
Has the standard library changed that much? I thought was it mainly the
deletion of old seldom used modules that happens in new releases anyways.
>[...] And as much as we all love Python-the-language, language features
>alone do not help a language and its community of users to grow
>and proliferate. I think most would agree that it is the cornucopia
>of libraries that really make Python an environment for developing
>production applications.
Definately.
Ross Ridge
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