[warning: rant ahead] [[ Before starting my rant, I would like to encourage anyone who was at PyCon but has not provided formal feedback to use the following URLs:
For the conference: http://tinyurl.com/2ara8u For the tutorials: http://tinyurl.com/2ew2pc ]] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, fumanchu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This is my third PyCon, and I've found a reasonably-sized cadre of >people who come for the hallway conversations plus a Bof or two, >having given up on hearing anything new, useful, or inspiring in the >talks. There are several people I know who would like to see a more >advanced academic track. Let's leave aside the issue of how sponsor talks were handled: assuming that there's general agreement that this year was a failed experiment, fixing it is easy. What you're bringing up here is a much more difficult issue, and it is, in the end, not a solvable issue in the general case. For starters, speaking as someone who has been going to science fiction conventions for more than twenty years, there will inevitably be plenty of people like your cadre. I rarely go to organized programming anymore, but I still have a great time because I'm seeing all my friends. PyCon is a similar community-oriented event. Moreover, PyCon's success rests on many legs: tutorials, Open Space, Lightning Talks, formal presentations, keynotes, and sprinting. That's aside from the myriad opportunities to network with people. Finally, trying to satisfy a thousand people is impossible. People who want to emphasize specific topics (e.g. an academic track) will need to start organizing other kinds of Python conferences. Now the rant: If you did not like the programming this year (aside from the sponsor talks) and you did not participate in organizing PyCon or in delivering presentations, it is YOUR FAULT. PERIOD. EXCLAMATION POINT! PyCon is built on the backs of its volunteers. I personally spent more than twenty hours just doing Program Committee work. We rejected half the proposals that we received, simply due to lack of space. We had difficulty evaluating some proposals because nobody on the PC had subject matter expertise. None of the speakers received any kind of honorarium. Except for keynote speakers (e.g. Ivan Krstic), no speakers received free registration unless they requested financial aid. There are no requirements for volunteering other than a willingness to volunteer and a modicum of courtesy in working with people. PyCon is what YOU make of it. If you want to change PyCon, propose a presentation or join the conference committee (concom) -- the latter only requires signing up for the pycon-organizers mailing list. This doesn't mean that we are uninterested in feedback. We love feedback. But there are stark limits to what we can do unless people get involved and push their pet projects. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code." --Bill Harlan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
