On Mar 11, 11:31 am, Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 4:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > On Mar 9, 4:25 am, Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 9, 3:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > > > Personally I preferred a code that has chosen good names but have
> > > > > little or no comments compared to codes that makes bad names and have
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> > > > Personally I don't. Show me a good one. Until you do, it's not that
> > > > I won't like it, it's that I can't. You know, in linguistics, there's
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> > > But I much prefer it that the code has good names AND concise
> > > comments, not too short and not too long that it becomes obscure.
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> > What do you mean? If 'obscure' is the right word, then it's
> > subjective (from metrics import obscurity?), which means that 10% of
> > the people disagree with you, or 90% do. The end-all be-all, there is
> > no such thing. I don't think it's obscure; I do. Is it?
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> No, there is a point where everyone would say obscure.
But not on all code. Comments can obscure code, and code can too.
Here's a snip from the docs:
# p2cwrite ---stdin---> p2cread
# c2pread <--stdout--- c2pwrite
# errread <--stderr--- errwrite
Is c2pread more or less obscure than c2pr or chi2parread? If there's
an objective metric of the degree of something's obscurity (obscured-
ity), then that has an answer. Is it a scalar, or if not, is there
abs( answer )? Does that comment obscure the later code? Are 'in'
and 'out' more or less obscure than those?
(p2cread, p2cwrite,
c2pread, c2pwrite,
errread, errwrite) = self._get_handles(stdin, stdout, stderr)
Information design can get (*subjective) breathtaking, but if you see
a potential improvement, you should always be able to make it.
Tell me what you think of this simile: Sometimes Steve Chessmaster
reads board positions, sometimes prose. Some of the prose is less
obscure, -to- -him-, than board states. To someone with a different
speciality, as in bishops vs. knights, endgame vs. openings, certain
forks, the states are less obscure than the corresponding prose. To
my fmr. A.I. professor, "The minimax A*," and "The beaten path A*" are
plenty clear. He can say what they do. Can you?
> (remember you don't have access to source code, so you have to
> decipher the documentation for what the function is about)
But you're still calling it?
> I prefer to see something like this:
> def add(a, b):
> return a + b
> Even without documentation I'd know immediately what it does from the
> name (add).
What if the word is generic? Do you know if it has a return value?
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