On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:26:25 -0800, castironpi wrote: > Humans have enormous "mental stacks"--- the stacks the contexts the > speakers speak in push things they're hearing on to.
This is not true. Human beings have extremely shallow mental stacks, limited by short-term memory. Most people are capable of keeping seven, plus or minus two, items in short term memory at once. Any more than that and they are subject to fading away or being over-written. Grammatically, it doesn't take many levels to confuse most people, and even the best and brightest can't keep track of hundreds of levels, let alone "enormous" numbers. At least, not unless you consider five to be enormous. Steven Pinker's "The Language Instinct" has some excellent examples of such "top heavy" phases, such as: He gave the girl that he met in New York while visiting his parents for ten days around Christmas and New Year's the candy. She saw the matter that had caused her so much anxiety in former years when she was employed as an efficiency expert by the company through. Fortunately the English grammar, which is very strict about word order (Pinker describes it as "tyrannical") allows alternate forms that are easier for our shallow stacks to deal with: He gave the candy to the girl that he met in New York while visiting his parents for ten days around Christmas and New Year's. She saw the matter through that had caused her so much anxiety in former years when she was employed as an efficiency expert by the company through. Pinker also describes situations where the words can be grouped into phrases as you go, and so are easy to comprehend: Remarkable is the rapidity of the motion of the wing of the hummingbird. and a counter-example of a perfectly grammatical sentence, with only THREE levels, which is all but unintelligible: The rapidity that the motion that the wing that the hummingbird has has has is remarkable. These nested "onion sentences" are exceedingly difficult for the human brain to parse. In fact, I'm betting that at least 90% of people will, on first reading, will question whether it could possibly be grammatically correct. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list