I count zpt as xml because page templates can operate in html or xml mode. This is not a troll. It is a lot of work in Zope to create interfaces to relational data for anything more than simple data models.
It's a lot less work in Maypole or Rails, but I don't want to go back to writing in Perl, or needing to learn Ruby. I do like Formulator but the documentation on it is weak. I don't want to have to go rooting around in the source code or spending hours on weeding through mailing lists for answers. I still have to screw around and glue formulator to the data with python, zpt, and zsql methods. Archetypes seems a lot closer to a fix, but there are problems with SQLStorage representing anything more than simple relationships reliably. It would be nice to have an object database that is ACID compliant. Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: <snip> > > Is this a troll ? I wrote several Zope apps, and I don't remember having > written a single ligne of xml. Unless you count ZPT for XML ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list