On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:51:34 -0000, Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> C-h i, C-x b RET is non-trivial?!? [...] > I'm sorry. I don't speak Chinese. > > I trust I've made my point. Not only does it insist you learn a whole > other language (though I'm guessing it's not actually Chinese -- > Greek, maybe), even when you know that's a bunch of keystrokes and > even what they are... > > HOW IN THE BLOODY HELL IS IT SUPPOSED TO OCCUR TO SOMEONE TO ENTER > THEM, GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE TO DO SO TO REACH THE HELP THAT WOULD TELL > THEM THOSE ARE THE KEYS TO REACH THE HELP?!
No it's not Greek. I can assure you it isn't, because I *am* Greek. Now, regarding your shouting about the keys, have you tried using a recent GNU Emacs installation? The first thing that pops up when a new user runs Emacs looks like this: ,----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Welcome to GNU Emacs, a part of the GNU operating system. | | Type C-l to begin editing. | | Get help C-h (Hold down CTRL and press h) | Emacs manual C-h r | Emacs tutorial C-h t Undo changes C-x u | Buy manuals C-h C-m Exit Emacs C-x C-c | Browse manuals C-h i | Activate menubar F10 or ESC ` or M-` | (`C-' means use the CTRL key. `M-' means use the Meta (or Alt) key. | If you have no Meta key, you may instead type ESC followed by the character.) | | GNU Emacs 22.1.50.2 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0, X toolkit) | of 2007-05-29 on kobe | Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. | | GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type C-h C-w for full details. | Emacs is Free Software--Free as in Freedom--so you can redistribute copies | of Emacs and modify it; type C-h C-c to see the conditions. | Type C-h C-d for information on getting the latest version. `----------------------------------------------------------------------- Basic reading skills are necessary to parse this 'splash' screen, but it shouldn't be too hard to read a few lines of text which guide you about the proper key sequence to reach the tutorial, right? > Of course, Notepad is so easy to use it doesn't even need help, > despite which it's readily available. In case you forgot the bog- > standard (and therefore it IS self-evident) "F1" there's even a "Help" > menu in plain view as soon as you open a Notepad. There's also a "Help" menu in plain sight when you fire up Emacs with an X11 interface. I don't see why Notepad is special in any way here. > This is the lowly Notepad, which I'll freely admit is the rusty > bicycle of text editors, and it's much easier to use (including the > help) than the supposed Mercedes-Benz of editors. Isn't this always the case? The 'interface' of a tiny bicycle is something which even very young kids can master pretty fast. On the other hand, I'm relatively sure there's at least one valid reason we don't let pre-school aged children drive around Mercedes-Benz cars, isn't there? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
