On 15 May, 15:57, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But the positions are clear, I think.
Amongst the small group of people responsible for pumping out almost 200 messages on the subject. > Open-Source people are against it, as they expect hassle with people sending > in code or code being lost as it can't go public as-is. Amongst the small sample here, perhaps that's true. I'm more a Free Software person than an open source person and I can perfectly well see the benefits in having identifiers in a broader range of characters than just the subset of ASCII currently permitted. That's because I can separate the issues of being able to express concepts in one's own writing system and being able to share work with other people, familiar or otherwise with that writing system. > Teachers are for it as they see the advantage of having children express > concepts in their native language. Yes, because it allows them to concentrate on fewer "new things" simultaneously. > In-house developers are rather for this PEP as they see the advantage of > expressing concepts in the way the "non-techies" talk about it. Yes, but this point can be stretched too far. I've worked in environments with English plus another language in use, as well as just a non-English language in use, and in all of them there's been a tendency to introduce English or English-like terms into systems, often to the detriment of dedicated, officially recommended non- English terms. But I can see the potential benefit of just letting people get on with it - again, it's possible to separate the social issues from the technical ones. > That's about all I could extract as arguments. >From a relatively small group of people where an even smaller group of participants seem intent on amplifying their arguments on the subject. > To me, this sounds pretty much like something people and projects could handle > on their own once the PEP is accepted. Yes, of course. But what I'd like to see, for a change, is some kind of analysis of the prior art in connection with this matter. Java has had extensive UTF-8 support all over the place for ages, but either no- one here has any direct experience with the consequences of this support, or they are more interested in arguing about it as if it were a hypothetical situation when it is, in fact, a real-life situation that can presumably be observed and measured. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
