In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Beliavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >Your experience with Fortran is dated -- see below. > >> >> I'll be more clear: Fortran itself is a distinguished >> language with many meritorious implementations. It can be >> costly, though, finding the implementation you want/need >> for any specific environment. > >Gfortran, which supports Fortran 95 and a little of Fortran 2003, is >part of GCC and is thus widely available. Binaries for g95, also based >on GCC, are available for more than a dozen platforms, including >Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux. I use both and consider only g95 mature, >but gfortran does produce faster programs. Intel's Fortran compilers >cost about $500 on Windows and Mac OS and $700 on Linux. It's not >free, but I would not call it costly for professional developers. > >Speaking of money, gfortran and g95 have free manuals, the latter >available in six languages >http://ftp.g95.org/ . Final drafts of Fortran standards, identical to >the official ISO standards, are freely available. The manual for Numpy >costs $40 per copy. >
My experience with Fortran is indeed dated. However, I still work with university groups that balk at $500 for valuable software--sometimes because of admini- strative conflicts with licensing (example: the group needs an educational license that fits its team perfectly, but educational license have to be approved by a campus-wide office that involves the group in expenses uncovered by its grants, and ... complications ensue). Intel's compiler, for example, is a great deal, and recognized as a trivial expense sometimes--but judged utterly impossible by a research group down a different corridor. My summary: practical success depends on specific details, and specific details in the Fortran and Python worlds differ. Also, Beliavsky, thanks for your report on the pertinent Fortran compilers. There *are* other proprietary Fortan compilers extant; do you expect them to fade away, leaving only g* and Intel, or are you simply remarking on those two as the (intellectual) market leaders? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list