Paul> Yeah well, the Wxpython, PyQt, PyGTK etc. people may feel slighted Paul> that Tkinter got included and their stuff didn't, and the Eric, Paul> Eclipse, Komodo etc. people may feel slighted that IDLE got Paul> included, but that doesn't stop Tkinter and IDLE from being useful Paul> and worth shipping in Python.
They were both pretty much the only games in town when they were included with Python. If they were developed in today's environment I doubt they would be included. Paul> Basic competitive analysis. People ask here all the time "I'm Paul> trying to write application XYZ, should I use language L or should Paul> I use Python" (L is usually Java or PHP but can be other things). So every time some lame ass PHP refugee gripes about something they think Python is missing which PHP includes we should scan the horizon for all the candidates and toss them in the next release? Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list