<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Can a jet fuel/hydrocarbon fire collapse a steel structure? An >> >>experiment. >> >> > [snip] >> > Run your "experiment" again but add some pure oxygen such as was >> > escaping from the on-board breathing oxygen tanks on the >> > airplanes that were crashed into the WTC. > > No need to do it. We have the pictures of live humans waving from the > gaping holes in the towers where the planes crashed. We have the > testimonies of the fire fighters that the fires were not that hot and > minor. The fuel of the plane which is mainly in the wings were severed > outside the netting and much of them burnt outside in the fireball > that is visible in all the videos. Futhermore, the black soot that was > visible to the naked eye is indicative of bloody cold flame. Also, the > probability of the oxygen tanks oriented in such a way to inject > oxygen onto the steel as in a oxygen cutting torch is extremely low. > These cylinders have a 1000-3000psi of pressure which makes them into > a rocket or an explosive under uncontrolled gas release. And they > would not contaminate the molten metal with any sulfur. Either the > atmosphere inside was oxidising or reducing. If it was oxidising, how > did the sulfur in huge quantities contaminate the molten metal pools? > The official lies to explain sulfur is from the plaster wall. But that > requires a reducing atmosphere with finely divided and intimately > mixed reactants in a calciner where they are continuously rotated and > run for several hours. Yet the fires ran not even for an hour before > the building collapsed. >
OK - given all that -- you are left with only one conclusion (or at least I am) -- progressive structural failure, the loss of support where the plane hit was sufficient to put excessive stress on the remaining structural members, resulting in a catastrophic sequential failure -- it doesnt take exotic chemical mixes to put excessive mechanical stress on a system... just chop out enough supports.. it may take time for the remaining supports to deform enough to reach the failure point.. but they will get there, as demonstrated -- occams razor dude -- the least hypothesis is usually the right one -- and I get enough conspiracy theory crap out of my dad -- makes a good movie -- but doesnt pan out in real life -- too many whistle-blowers around !! The city I live in is installing those red-light cameras to catch light-runners -- my dad likes to claim that they manipulate the yellow time to catch people in the intersection and increase revenue from traffic tickets -- I told him to shut up until he got out there with a stop watch and proved it -- and I say the same to you -- PROVE it -- then make some noise -- conjecture and conspiracy theories without proof are a waste of everyones time. -- how do you know the sulphur was in large quantities ?? did you do a chemical analysis ?? or can you produce one done by a reputable metalurgy company ?? Ohhh and by the way -- high sulphur steels are regularly used for machined components -- was the amount of sulphur detected incosistent with what may have been present due to the use of high sulphur steels ?? (where is that metalurgy report again ??) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
