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Bush Ignores True Cost of Iraq war
Asset H12937 Posted By GWHunta
In his State of the Union address, President Bush makes the case for
his plan to escalate the war in Iraq. He paints the potential costs of
pulling out of Iraq in stark colors. But he won't say much about the
real costs of staying in and escalating.
We should never forget the incalculable cost of the war-the lives and
the limbs of U.S. soldiers. As of this month, more than 3,000 U.S.
soldiers have died and 22,800 been wounded in this war. An estimated
35,000 Iraqi civilian lives were lost last year. A staggering
percentage have been displaced from their homes. The U.S. casualties
bring terrible grief to their families and friends, but the loss must
sober and sadden us all.
In addition, this country pays very steep economic costs-what
economists call "opportunity costs"-the costs of what is not done
with the scarce financial resources we are devoting to war in Iraq. The
price is particularly apparent as the president prepares to introduce a
budget calling for cuts in child care, in education, in health care,
and more.
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GWHunta
R258778
9 hours ago
GWHunta
When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go
and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
The most successful war seldom pays for its losses.
~Thomas Jefferson
Sometimes no Peace,
~GWHunta
BetterRed
R258787
8 hours ago
BetterRed
"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting
different results".-Albert Einstein
"It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing
but an act of murder." -Albert Einstein
"I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard
existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a
land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my
lifetime."
Albert Einstein, 1947
mikecimerian
R258790
8 hours ago
mikecimerian
Two billion a week ... and Katrina victims still pay mortgage on
wrecked houses ...
GWHunta
R258793
7 hours ago
GWHunta
15 billion a month for the "war on terror."
Not including interest on these "borrowed" funds and the health
care costs and disability payments for the veterans fretruning from
these "wars."
Also not included are the economic and social costs of the programs
that go unfunded because war is becoming the primary function of the
U.S. federal gov't.
The costs associated with the war in Iraq continue to escalate along
with the violence.
Sometimes no Peace,
johnnycivil
R258821
5 hours ago
johnnycivil
Okay, lets be real. Iraq has always been a staging ground for Iran. In
Iraq and Afghanistan we have the foundation for a strong move agaist
the meat in our murder sandwich. When we straddle Saudi Arabia to
Afghanistan we will control 70% of the easily extracable oil. Pretty or
ugly the Cheney gang are correct, own that own the nations. When
control is locked in they will say that is what drove China to attack
us, leading to the depopulating war our fearful masters always opt for.
Have a nice day.
nobinPoddywodder
R258872
33 minutes ago
nobinPoddywodder
Why do crackerjax hate Iraq so much? Why do they hate the shia's and
the kurds and try and deny them majority rule? Why do crackerjax try
and deny Iraqis the right to democracy?
Far leftists have argued many times over the past 3 years, that Iraq
would be better off under saddam, a veiled attempt at saying sunni
minority rule. Of course the far left doesn't care if minority rule
in Iraq would continue. Not only minority rule, but minority rule of a
brutal dictators. Perhaps the far left should ask Shias and Kurds
whether saddam was better.
Ok, so Iraq is a prop in your socialist revolution. Ok, the Iraqi war
offers some hope, albeit a slim one, that such a catastrophe could
trigger a socialist revolution in the West.
But this antic of the far left of pretending to actually care about
Iraqis by destroying its democracy is getting a bit tired. Pretty weird
social science if you ask me. The far left is protecting Iraq by
preventing it from modernizing and preventing it from extending
Capitalism and world economic integration.
"No War for oil" is a code word meaning, don't modernize Iraq and
don't bring Capitalsm and free foreign investment there.
Again I say, why not ask Iraqis what type of system they want.
Or for example, when iraqi terrorism against the government of Iraq is
almost entirely a sunni phenomena, the far left call the Maliki
government stooges and traitors, as if to say that the 80% of Iraq that
is either Shia or Kurd is somehow does not represent Iraq, yet a small
handful of sunni thugs, assisted by sunni Islamists from other
countries somehow do. According to the far left the sunnis who have
hitherto ruled Iraq with brutality should continue to do so. Why? Just
because the US is trying to bring freedom and majority rule.
If the far left would wake up, they might realize that the terrorist
insurgency in Iraq is entirely a sunni phenomena, yet only a small
minority of sunnis are involved. The brutal shia attacks on sunnis are
simply lawless retaliation for sunni terror attacks.
Another smoke screen of the far left is that shias are somehow just as
bad and are an equal part of the violent malaise that is the disaster
in Iraq. Yet, hardly any coalition forces have been killed by shias.
Only a tiny handful of US and British soldiers were killed in
skirmishes with shia militias. Yet in every case it was a case of the
shias trying to assert their right to exist as a militia. Not once has
a shia insurgency targeted Coalition troops.
Yet the far left tries its best to confuse these facts, determined to
pretend to their idiot followers that somehow the insurgency is a
popular uprising by all Iraqis. Well not the 80%+ of Iraqi Kurds and
Shiites who exercised their right to vote, that represent 80% of the
population.
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glacialimprint
R258877
17 minutes ago
glacialimprint
pardon, in your previous post of factoids that don't add up, you
mentioned that 70+ of the population voted. now it's 80%+. sweet.
note to your brain: if we allowed majority rule, ie: shia and then
kurds, over sunni, you can bet your ass saudi arabia will take some
action to prevent the slaughter and backlash against the sunni
minority. If you do not recall, Saudi Arabia explicitly warned us that
they would have to do something if we let Iraq go to Shia (majority)
rule without protecting the Sunnis.
If the terrorism in Iraq is all Sunni, and a minority at that-what is
the big deal for our boys in blue to take care of them? why so hard,
are they super-human terrorists?
you are such a coward, the men who start wars but who do not fight in
them are cowards, but at least are able to do something (be it
negative, destructive) with their life. You have nothing to show except
drivel and your cowardly, anonymous nature.
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