Thomas Ploch wrote: > Thomas Ploch schrieb: >> Amir Michail schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> It seems to me that measuring productivity in a programming language >>> must take into account available tools and libraries. >>> >>> Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no >>> longer obvious to me that one would be much more productive in python >>> for medium sized projects. >>> >>> Sure, all that Java static typing can be painful, but Eclipse takes >>> some of that pain away. Moreover, static typing can result in better >>> on-the-fly error detection and refactoring support. >>> >>> Any thoughts on this? >>> >>> Amir >>> >> Yes, thats true, but since eclipse is resource monster (it is still >> using java), and some people (like me) don't have a super fresh and new >> computer, and have to run other services to test their work locally >> (like mysql and apache servers), it gets pretty harsh with eclipse. I >> personally tried eclipse on my laptop (which I work most with), and I >> had quite a system resource problem. So I switched back to vim and >> console and it hasn't been too bad, since if you know how to use a >> powerful editor, it can be as productive. >> >> But in the end, it is up to anyone to find the best solutiion for >> themselves. >> >> Thomas >> > > Yes, thats true, but since eclipse is resource monster (it is still > using java), and some people (like me) don't have a super fresh and new > computer, and have to run other services to test their work locally > (like mysql and apache servers), it gets pretty harsh with eclipse. I > personally tried eclipse on my laptop (which I work most with), and I > had quite a system resource problem. So I switched back to vim and > console and it hasn't been too bad, since if you know how to use a > powerful editor, it can be as productive. > > But in the end, it is up to anyone to find the best solutiion for > themselves. > > Thomas >
If you compare eclipse to VS, it is not that memory hungry - but i agree with you that a min-config is needed. Yet (I believe that) a complete IDE can bring functions that an editor, however powerful, cannot (I still use emacs). I have tried Komodo, Wing, Eric3, Idle, emacs, (not vi ;-) ), SPE, boa-constructor, .... and many more - I like most of them but am really addicted to eclipse + pydev. ... but even without pydev, I would not use java just because of eclipse. hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
