Ray wrote:
> fuzzylollipop wrote:
> > uh, no, Python predates Ruby by a good bit
> > Rails might be "older" than Turbogears but it still JUST went 1.0
> > officially.
> > It can't be called "mature' by any defintition.
>
> But at least in most developers' perception ... <snip>

nobody is talking about perception

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