> I am a member of another list that has at least one member > who has lost his vision, and reads his news with a speech > generator. It is terribly inconvenient for him to follow > a thread full of 'bottom postings', as he is then forced to > sit through the previous message contents again and again > in search of the new content.
I'm involved on the Blind Linux users (Blinux) list, and they seem to have no problem bottom-posting. There are a variety of tools for converting bottom-posting into more readable formats. If you want to suppress comments, a quality MUA can suppress them. Or you can pipe them through sed/grep/whatever and strip out all lines beginning with a greater-than sign. Or, use the search functionality in the screen-reader to skip ahead to the next line until you get to one that doesn't begin with a greater-than sign. Some text-display areas even allow you to use searching to move the cursor. E.g. if reading a mail in mutt in a console, you can open it in vim and search for "^[^>]" which will move the cursor to the next line that doesn't begin with a greater-than sign. Quite usable from within yasr ("yet another screen reader"). Inspired by a problem discussed on the Blinux list, I've also created a python tool for converting standard quoting notation (using greater-than signs) into a more TTS-friendly (text-to-speech) format: http://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2006-June/msg00012.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2006-June/msg00015.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2006-June/msg00016.html Thus, there are tools for blind/visually-impared folks that can make it easier for them to correspond using the standards the rest of the world uses. Even among blind users, there's often a division between those that use Braille terminals and those that use TTS. Those using Braille tend to fall in with the rest of the internet, preferring bottom-posting. Those using TTS aren't quite so fond of having their own content regurgitated back to them. However, judicial pruning of quoted contend can ease that problem. Thus, there are plenty of tools to help BVI folks operate under the standard of bottom-posting. -tkc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list