Brian van den Broek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > no Python expert, just a hobbyist. But, I think I can take this one on: > > Fredrik's contributed a lot to Python. The Standard Library book, > several well know tools, and, I'd wager a finger, a fair bit of code > in the standard lib. I don't think the community gives you a name like > F-bot, but that you know a wee bit about how Python is actually used, etc.
If he understood how Python is actually used, he'd understand that any C module is a lot more useful in the core than out of it. His lecture to me about the crypto module was bizarre and inappropriate. The whole purpose of that module was to fix a deficiency of Python, namely the lack of a good crypto module in the core, that people could use without having to install any downloaded C modules. If it doesn't go into the core, the deficiency isn't fixed, so the module has failed in its purpose. There are already tons of 3rd party crypto modules outside the core, and the module I was writing wouldn't add anything useful to those. It only provided AES/DES and the basic FIPS modes, and was designed specifically to be suitable for the core where the other modules were considered too fancy. Also, Guido had expressed interest in having it, before changing heart because of the legal stuff. Where does Frederik get off lecturing me about wanting to get a module into the core, when Guido had invited me to do precisely that with that very module? Frederik has written some pretty good C modules himself, that are a pain in the neck to use because they're not in the core, which means that before they can be used they first have to be compiled and installed. If he wanted to maximize their usefulness, he'd be trying to get them into the core. I don't know what his goals are though. I did release a replacement for the rotor module that's written in Python, which means it's reasonably useable without being in the core. However, while its security should be ok, to provide reasonable performance it had to use a nonstandard algorithm and therefore isn't good for interoperating with anything. To be both acceptably fast and interoperable with other applications, a C module is needed. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
