Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really, I just want to buy a new > computer, turn it on, and have everything there. That's generally > impossible without running satanware from Redmond The princes of insufficient light from Cupertino will in fact be very happy to sell you such computers, and _their_ definition of "everything" includes a bit more than the Redmonders' (e.g., Python is there, perl is there, gcc is there, so is Apache, a good development GUI-based IDE, emacs, a solid firewall, a _usable_ Terminal/commandline program to run bash or tcsh on, ...), though it's no doubt still missing many pieces that you or I might want as parts of *our* "everything" (gvim rather than just vim, GUI/IDEs for Python, Python add-ons such as numarray, gmpy, ctypes, ...) -- all of those you still have to download and install, just as you would for the satanware. Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list