HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be > to study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but > it works out better for me. Being a newbie, I find almost all > languages fascinating. C, D, Objective-C, Ocaml, C++, Lisp, how is a > non-tech to choose? Does any single language do a better job in > Python's weaker areas? Would anyone care to suggest one to supplement > Python. That is, if you could only use Python and one other language, > which would it be? Thank you for your time and help.
It depends on what your goals are. Python is an excellent language for learning OO and procedural programming, and makes it possible to learn functional programming as well. Part of the Python philosphy is that there should be one obvious way to do something. That's what makes it an attractive language to me. Eiffel shares this philosphy, in that every feature of the language was added to solve a specific problem that programmers encounter. It does many other things the exact opposite of Python. It's statically typed, with no loopholes allowed. For cases where you're not sure that something is conformant with a variable (meaning it's the same class as the variable or inherits from it in some way), there's even a "work if you can" assignment operator. So you see code that looks like: a ?= b if a /= Void then doSomethingWith(a) else doSomethingElseWith(b) end As you can see, it keywords instead of :. It's pure OO, in that there are no free-standing functions; every function is a method of a class. Functions aren't first-class objects, so you can invoke parameterless methods with just object.method. This allows subclasses to change such a method to a variable without you having to change any code anywhere else in the system. It has export rules to control what features (shorthand for methods and instance/class variables) are visible to what other classes. Exceptions are handled in a completely different method as well, with a method having an optional "rescue" clause that gets invoked when an exception is raised, should repair things, and then retries the method. The key feature is "Design by Contract". Each method can have a set of boolean expressions that must be true when the method is invoked, or an exception is raised. Likewise, each method has a set of boolean expressions that must be true when the function exits, or an exception is raised. Finally, there's a set of expressions that are always true when an externally-invoked method exits. These are the contracts, and they make debugging wonderful. You can disable all those checks for production code. There are tools to display the the method headers, header comment, and contracts (short form). There is a tool to display all methods a class has, including inherited methods (flat form), and of course there's a tool that displays the shortflat form. If you want to do GUI programming on Windows, Linux or FreeBSD 5.x, EiffelStudio is probably your best bet. It comes with a standard GUI library, an IDE built on that library, and a reasonably standards-compliant compiler and library. It hasn't yet drifted into the parts of the language that are undergoing experimental changes. <mike -- Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list