On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:42:38 GMT, Dimitri Tcaciuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm, interesting. So I'm hearing lots of different opinions here, but it > seems like there's not too many radical thoughts about not using snake > at all and it can be pretty much summed up to 2 things > 1) use a snake > 2) combine snake with -some- monty python's symbolic
+1 on both counts. > I personally totally like the thought of calling the snake Monty, I > couldn't even think of any other alternatives. +1 too. > But before pushing forward any particular design, maybe it will make > sense to make some sort of official logo contest on Python's main > website and post it on /. ? It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower than the alternatives) language. The thread ended up as a discussion about Python marketing & advocacy in general. So I think that the timing is good. But on the other hand, making this into a open contest takes more than a simple announcement on Slashdot. Some things need to be arranged first: 1) Our vote may count, but Guido's opinion not only count, it's decisive. So I believe that's better for we to hear his opinion before we even start talking about it seriously. 2) The folks are python-dev are much more involved with Python than most people that gather around comp.lang.python. Their opinion is also important. However, to announce it on the python-dev list out of the blue is not a good idea; the list is highly focused on Python development issues, and is not the place for this discussion. I would prefer that some senior member (Guido himself, or some of the other old-timers) did the announcement on Ptyhon-dev, if only to make people know about it. 3) Finally, if there's a competition, there must be a decision process. It may be democratic voting, it may be a comitee, it may be Guido's opinion, I don't know. But the conditions need to be clear from the start. > That should be a better option, since there obviously are waaay more > great artists out there than the ones that somehow got on these > newsgroups :) > > So the question is, how can this be arranged? I am pretty new to Python > in general, so I don't know how this community's clockwork is arranged > and who to contact about that. I don't know... posting it on Python-dev would raise the attention of some folks, but may bother others, as this is really off-topic there. As far as I know, Python does not have a official contact for marketing issues. Maybe if just need to keep going with the discussion here, until someone who really knows the Python Ways "buys" the idea. And finally, Dimitri - congratulations for the design, but most important, for the attitude. -- Carlos Ribeiro Consultoria em Projetos blog: http://rascunhosrotos.blogspot.com blog: http://pythonnotes.blogspot.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list