Thank you for the comments and answers, and sorry for my answering
delay...
Josiah Carlson:
>Decorators can do this without additional syntax. Think @accepts and
@returns.<
The purpose of those pre-post is to write something simile and very
*clean* that states what inputs and outputs must be. This is an
example of a pre-post conditional for a sorting function taken from
that site (all this is inside the docstring of the function):
pre:
# must be a list
isinstance(a, list)
# all elements must be comparable with all other items
forall(range(len(a)),
lambda i: forall(range(len(a)),
lambda j: (a[i] < a[j]) ^ (a[i] >= a[j])))
post[a]:
# length of array is unchanged
len(a) == len(__old__.a)
# all elements given are still in the array
forall(__old__.a, lambda e: __old__.a.count(e) == a.count(e))
# the array is sorted
forall([a[i] >= a[i-1] for i in range(1, len(a))])
Surely such things can be passed (at least as strings) to the @accepts
and @returns decorators (using a "decorate" identifier instead of @ is
probably nicer, because the @ makes Python look more like Perl, but
I've seen that lots of people have already discussed such topic). Such
testing performed by such decorators can be "switched off" with a
global boolean flag when the program is debugged and tested.
So now someone can write and let standardise a couple of good @accepts
and @returns decorators/functors :-]
>Having a 'faq' for permutation and combination generation would be
99% of the way there.<
Uh, I'm sorry, but I don't understand :-]
Aren't such functions quite well defined?
>[Fixed] Quickselect, really, doesn't gain you a whole lot. Sure, it's
a log factor faster to select a median, but many algorithms involving
selecting medians (at least the ones that I run into in CS theory) end
up repeatedly (logn times) selecting the 'kth' smallest element
(varying k's), where sorting would actually run slightly faster.<
I've done some tests with a Quickselect that I have essentially
translated and adapted to pure Python from "Numerical Recipes" (it
seems a bit faster than the Quickselect coded by Raymond Hettinger
that can be seen in the cookbook). I have seen that on my PC, on
random sequence of FP numbers, a *single* Quickselect (to find just
the median) is faster than the standard sort for lists longer than
about 3 million elements. So it's often useless.
But using Psyco, that Quickselect becomes 5-6 times faster (for long
lists), so it beats the (good) standard Sort for lists longer than
600-3000 elements. If the Quickselect works in place (as the sort)
then it returns a partially ordered list, and you can use it to
quickly select other positions (so for close positions, like the
computing of the two central values for the median, the complexity of
the second select is nearly a constant time).
So coding the Quickselect in C/Pyrex can probably make it useful.
If you are interested I can give the Python Quickselect code, etc.
>Raymond Hettinger<
I have already seen that this person is working a lot on Python, often
in the algorithmic parts.
Nick Coghlan>I believe the OP was objecting to the spelling of "this
integer literal is hex" and "this integer literal is octal".<
Right.
Josiah Carlson>Regardless, I also don't believe the "I don't like
this" without "this is the way it should be" will result in anything.<
You are right, I was mostly afraid of saying silly things... Here is:
Such syntax can be like:
number<Separator><Base>
(Putting <Base><Separator> at the beginning of the number is probably
worse and it goes against normal base representation in mathematics,
where you often subscript the base number).
<Separator> cannot be "B" or "b" (that stands for "base") because
number can be a Hex containing B too... So <Separator> can be "_"
(this is the Subscript in TeX markup, so this agrees with normal
representation of the base)
<Base> can be:
1)just an integer number representing the base (similar to the second
parameter of "int", this also allows to specify any base).
2) a symbol to represent a smaller class of possibilities, like 0=2,
1=8, 2=10, 3=16, 4=64. Instead
of such digits a letter can be used: a=2, b=8, c=10, etc.
I think the first option is better.
So integer numbers can be written like:
1010100111011_2
154545_10
777_8
afa35a_16
Fi3pK_64
Thank you to Carlos Ribeiro for your development of such doc string
ideas, I appreciate them :-]
Bear hugs,
Bearophile
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