On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:05:53AM +0200, Jacco van Dorp <[email protected]> wrote: > -1. The concept of ugly code is everywhere on the internet. Everyone on > this planet has either written ugly code or no code at all. Some have also > written beautiful code. > > People aren't code, and code isn't people. I can't see this becoming a > problem until we have an AI that can feel insulted because someone tells it > it's code looks ugly, and that's waaaaay off. Don't conflate code with > people, please. > > At the risk of politicizing (which you also took), I'd like to add that > diversity and inclusivity of thought is more important than that of > whatever arbitrary beauty standard. > > The Zen is clear and not about people. Don't try to make it to be so.
"Master/slave" technical term is also not about people but some think the term must be changed: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/11/python_purges_master_and_slave_in_political_pogrom/ I'm against the move and like the PRs to be reverted. > Op do 13 sep. 2018 om 10:38 schreef Samantha Quan <[email protected]>: > > > First, I'd like to express how grateful I am to see more and more > > technical communities embrace diversity and inclusivity, particularly big > > tech communities like Python, Redis, and Django. > > > > In the spirit of the big recent terminology change, I propose retiring or > > rewording the "Beautiful is better than ugly" Zen clause for perpetuating > > beauty bias and containing lookist slur. I realize that Zen is old, but you > > can't argue that the word "ugly" is harmless, now that society condemns > > body shaming, and instead promotes body acceptance and self-love. One > > alternative to that clause I could think of is "Clean is better than > > dirty", but please do speak up if you have better ideas. > > > > I ask you to give this change serious consideration, even if it seems > > over-the-top to you now, because times change, and this will be of great > > help in the battle for the more tolerant and less judgemental society. > > > > I understand that this topic may seem controversial to some, so please be > > open-minded and take extra care to respect the PSF Code Of Conduct when > > replying. > > > > Thank you! > > > > - Sam > > > > Some references: > > > > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lookism > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookism Oleg. -- Oleg Broytman https://phdru.name/ [email protected] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
