Antoine Pitrou <pit...@free.fr> added the comment: > > ??? EPOCH is not even a constant in the datetime module. > > > No, and it does not belong there.
And so what was your point exactly? > A higher level library that uses > seconds since epoch for interchange I don't think the "time" module can be named "higher level", and it still handles such timestamps. > datetime(1970, 1, 1) + timedelta(seconds=s) > > is obvious, self-contained, short and does not require any knowledge > other than elementary school arithmetic to understand. Sigh. Again: it's so obvious that you're the only one who seems to easily come up with those solutions. How many times does it have to be repeated? > Compared to > this, "utcfromtimestamp" is a monstrosity that suggests that something > non-trivial, such as UTC leap seconds is been taken care of. I don't see anything suggesting it is a monstrosity. The name is grammatically bizarre, but that's all. > Let's see: > [snip] > > which one is *obviously* correct? Are they *obviously* equivalent? Both are obviously correct for whatever the non-perverted user has in mind. People in real life don't care whether they will retain microsecond precision when carrying a floating point timestamp around. For the simple reason that the data source itself will not have such precision. > Note that when timedelta.total_seconds() was first committed, it > contained a numerical bug. See issue8644. So? What is your point? > In any case, you ignore the hard question about totimestamp(): > fromtimestamp() is not invertible in most real life timezones. If you > have a solution that does not restrict totimestamp() to UTC, I would > like to hear it. IMO, the solution would have the datetime object carry the offset from UTC with it, rather than try to be smart and compute it dynamically. ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue2736> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com