STINNER Victor <victor.stin...@haypocalc.com> added the comment: > In real life applications, you do run into these problems quite > often
Yes, I'm agree 100% with you :-) > > Python3 prefers unicode, eg. print expects an unicode string, not a byte > > string. I mean it's more pratical to use unicode everywhere in Python, > > and so fsencode()/fsdecode() can be really useful on POSIX systems. > > Sure, but forcing UnicodeDecodeErrors upon Python3 programmers is > not a good idea. Please keep that in mind. I proposed to reject bytes on Windows because Martin (who knows Windows better than me) decided to *not* support byte string on Windows. Windows native API uses unicode, and conversion from bytes and unicode on Windows using "mbcs" is not reliable (it depends on the locale, and it may loose some informations). http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-April/099556.html Reject byte string on Windows is just a suggestion. To support byte strings on Windows, each Python function written in C should be fixed to use the ANSI version instead of the Wide version (eg. CreateProcessA instead of CreateProcessW) if it gets byte arguments. The code would become twice bigger, and it introduces new issues: which function should be choosen if there are two arguments, one is a byte string, and the other an unicode string? _subprocess.CreateProcess has 9 arguments... Since unicode is a superset of MBCS and MBCS has subtle bugs, it's preferable to use (force) unicode. -- But on POSIX, it's the opposite: I'm doing my best to support byte string everywhere (filenames, environment variables, etc.). See the dependency list of my "meta" issue #8242. The first goal of fsencode() is to accept byte strings on POSIX systems. Maybe, I didn't explained it correctly. ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue8514> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
