Brandt Bucher <brandtbuc...@gmail.com> added the comment:

Almost certain. The number one is offset 192 bytes in small_ints on 3.8, which 
matches both of your backtraces:

>>> id(1) - id(-5)                                                              
>>>                                                                             
>>>                                                                             
>>>       
192

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