Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> added the comment:
(Added packaging, Linux distro, and Windows and macOS installer folks to the cc list) Chris and I were discussing this behaviour, and it turns out even I had forgotten how we had specified this feature in PEP 453: `ensurepip --upgrade` ensures that an older pip is brought up to date with the bundled version, but it does *not* check PyPI for the latest version the way that `python3 -m pip install --upgrade pip` does. We both expected the ensurepip option to behave the same way as the pip option, since they share a name. If I had the time machine keys, I'd use a more verbose name for the ensurepip flag (e.g. `--upgrade-to-match-bundle`) to help make it clearer that it does something different from the corresponding pip flag. As it is though, for Python 3.9, I think we should change the behaviour of `--upgrade` to imply `python -m pip install --upgrade pip`, and then add a separate `--network-upgrade`/`--no-network-upgrade` option that allows folks to opt out of the PyPI part of the version check. The make file would presumably be updated to pass the `--no-network-upgrade` flag, and I guess the macOS and Windows installers would as well (I'm not sure what the platform policies are around installers making random additional requests to external network services) ---------- nosy: +barry, doko, dstufft, ncoghlan, ned.deily, paul.moore, petr.viktorin, steve.dower stage: -> needs patch type: -> enhancement versions: +Python 3.9 -Python 3.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue37107> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com