Ned Deily added the comment: I think that those two requirements, i.e. (1) a set of key bindings compatible with standard Cocoa text key bindings and (2) a set of key bindings kept in sync across all IDLE platforms, would be desirable but probably unattainable. A good next step would be for someone to make a table of the IDLE key bindings across the various keysets and platforms. That would make it easier to make informed design decisions.
The "Classic Unix" keyset is quite different, with emacs-like multiple key strokes (like Ctrl-X Ctrl-N for New Window). I wonder how widely it is used. For OS X, we have the aforementioned conflicts with system accelerators and with the Cocoa Tk we have already had to disable some common accelerators (like Cmd-M for Open Module..) because of conflicts with Cocoa Tk's builtin accelerators and the as-yet-unresolved Ctrl-5 and Ctrl-6 crashes (Issue16023). The X11 situation is a mess with Option and Command being reversed and, yes, there are still users of Python with X11 Tk on OS X (for one, MacPorts provides it as the default option). Perhaps the best solution for it is a separate OS X X11 keyset. Re function keys: I created a new user account on a current OS X 10.8 (with a US keyboard on a MacBook Pro). It seems that function keys are enabled by default. This is controlled by a checkbox setting in the Keyboard panel of System Preferences. With the box checked (the default), you have to press the fn modifier key to enable the hardware control functions. Inspecting the default set of Keyboard Shortcuts in the panel, the only F(n) keys defined are F11, F12, Cmd-F5, Opt-Cmd-F5, and Ctrl-F1 through Ctrl-F7. This conforms to the current OS X Human Interface Guidelines, Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts, with the addition that the entire range F8 through F12 are marked as Apple reserved. (Interestingly, the guidelines do not note that Ctrl-Left and Ctrl-Right are now used by Mission Control by default.) That said, it would be great if IDLE could more closely follow the OS X Human Interface Guidelines, including the accessibility guidelines for Universal Access. Of course, IDLE is very much dependent on Tk in these matters. So trying to improve things will require a fair amount of research and experimentation with the Apple docs, Tk code, and IDLE itself. It would be a good project for someone interested in practical User Experience design. Additional references: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/KeyboardShortcuts/KeyboardShortcuts.html https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/Site/System%20Bindings.html ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue18444> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
