Bugs item #1202533, was opened at 2005-05-16 01:43 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by loewis You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1202533&group_id=5470
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Python Interpreter Core Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Armin Rigo (arigo) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: a bunch of infinite C recursions Initial Comment: There is a general way to cause unchecked infinite recursion at the C level, and I have no clue at the moment how it could be reasonably fixed. The idea is to define special __xxx__ methods in such a way that no Python code is actually called before they invoke more special methods (e.g. themselves). >>> class A: pass >>> A.__mul__=new.instancemethod(operator.mul,None,A) >>> A()*2 Segmentation fault ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis) Date: 2005-05-20 23:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=21627 Wouldn't adding Py_EnterRecursiveCall into many places solve the problem? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Armin Rigo (arigo) Date: 2005-05-19 17:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=4771 This is not about the new module. The same example can be written as: import types class A: pass A.__mul__ = types.MethodType(operator.mul, None, A) If this still looks essentially like an indirect way of using the new module, here is another example: class A(str): __get__ = getattr a = A('a') A.a = a a.a Or, as I just found out, new-style classes are again vulnerable to the older example based __call__, which was fixed for old-style classes: class A(object): pass A.__call__ = A() A()() I'm not denying that these examples look convoluted :-) My point here is that we can basically build a lot of examples based only on core (if not necessarily widely understood) language features. It appears to go against the basic hope that CPython cannot be crashed as long as you don't use features explicitely marked as dangerous. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Terry J. Reedy (tjreedy) Date: 2005-05-19 04:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=593130 On Windows, this caused the interactive window to just disappear.so I suspect something similar occurred. New is a known dangerous, use at your own risk, implementation specific module whose use, like byte code hacking, is outside the language proper. Both bypass normal object creation syntax and its checks and both can create invalid objects. A hold-your- hand inplementation would not give such access to internals. Lib Ref 3.28 says "This module provides a low-level interface to the interpreter, so care must be exercised when using this module. It is possible to supply non-sensical arguments which crash the interpreter when the object is used." Should more or different be said? If not, I suspect this should be closed as 'won't fix', as in 'won't remove the inherently dangerous new module'. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1202533&group_id=5470 _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com