Hi Jason,

if I use the program Chimera it directly situates the volume correctly in 
relation to the protein, therefore the position information must be somewhere 
in the MRC file. I have to admit that my pymol knowledge is not good enough to 
move the volume manually, I mean from Voss Volume Voxelator you get the COM 
coordinates of the volume in relation to the proteins origine. This could help?

If this is too complicated I will just use Chimera for this application.

Again thanks alot,

Max

On 2012/01/07, at 2:30, Jason Vertrees wrote:

> Maximilian,
> 
>> First of all thanks for the answer. I was able to load the MRC file and get 
>> the surface representation of the volume in pymol. However, the position 
>> relative to the pdb enzyme structure is not correct anymore. The center of 
>> the map seems to be located now at the coordinates 0,0,0 instead. Do you 
>> have any idea how to fix that? In addition, would there be a possibility to 
>> smoothen such a surface? I tried to follow this 
>> http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface but had little success.
> 
> I'm glad you got the data into PyMOL. You should be able to either
> symmetry-expand (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Symexp) the
> protein into the map, or you should be able to move the volume onto
> the protein (if you know the 3D offset) I think using transform_object
> or similar.  I'll look into this. Actually, you could also translate
> the protein to the origin using a PyMOL script
> (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Com).
> 
> I think you can smooth the surface, but it might be tedious. Start
> here: 
> http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface#Smooth_surface_accurate_.28blob.29.
> I'll look into this as well. Also, please do not forget you can use
> volume rendering in PyMOL too (http://pymol.org/volume; make sure you
> look at the images and movies).
> 
> Also, when seeking answers, it's always best to CC the pymol-users
> list. Many times they'll come up with a quick and succinct answer.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Jason
> 
> 
>> On 2012/01/06, at 16:21, Jason Vertrees wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Maximillian,
>>> 
>>>> I am using the webtool http://3vee.molmovdb.org/index.php. The density map
>>>> is in a file format called MRC (I guess it is re-formated by the webtool in
>>>> a MRC file compatible to pymol at least this is what it says), which if I
>>>> understand it correctly is a similar file format as CCP4. However, I can't
>>>> isomesh the map. Does anybody knows how to compute MRC files from voss
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried this and the volumes look great. This looks like a really
>>> useful web-based tool. Here's how to do it.
>>> 
>>> Download their file and decompress it: gunzip yourFile.mrc.gz. Then
>>> load it into PyMOL as:
>>> 
>>> load yourFile.mrc, format=ccp4
>>> 
>>> The map data are most likely not a normal distribution, so I suggest
>>> unsetting normalize_ccp4_maps, before loading:
>>> 
>>> unset normalize_ccp4_maps
>>> 
>>> At this point, the idea of a map "level" is no longer valid (since the
>>> maps are not normalized). But, that's the only way to change the
>>> representation, so use the 'isolevel' command
>>> (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Isolevel).
>>> 
>>> This should be documented on the PyMOLWiki somewhere under 3rd Party
>>> Tools (or web servers).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> -- Jason
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jason Vertrees, PhD
>>> PyMOL Product Manager
>>> Schrodinger, LLC
>>> 
>>> (e) jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
>>> (o) +1 (603) 374-7120
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jason Vertrees, PhD
> PyMOL Product Manager
> Schrodinger, LLC
> 
> (e) jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
> (o) +1 (603) 374-7120


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