Folks, Please endeavor to be respectful, kind, and patient with one another. Toxic interactions on the mailing list hurt all of us, so please avoid such posts altogether or keep them private.
Unfortunately, is appears that we can no longer rely on either SourceForge or Google to provide a PyMOL mailing list search capacity, so we will be looking at what else we can do instead to provide convenient access to the accumulated knowledge contained inside the pymol-users archives. Restoring this capability should help cut down on the number of repeat questions. Cheers, Warren > -----Original Message----- > From: Tsjerk Wassenaar [mailto:tsje...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:00 AM > To: Mehmet Cetin; pymol-users > Subject: Re: [PyMOL] solvent accessibility with pymol > > Hi Mehmet, > > > 1. I have just become a member today so I don't know who > posted what 2 > > days ago. and as far as I can see there is no search > function on the archives. > > True, that's why I didn't answer 'search the archives', like > I would on other lists. > > > 2. I do search the web before asking. I couldn't find something > > satisfying, that's why I asked. > > The wiki did have the answer, maybe you searched but you > couldn't find it, or did not know of its existence. In that > case, indicate what you tried in order to find the answer > yourself (like noticing the archives have no search > function). That will make people like me feel to be taken > seriously and not used like some helpdesk. Maybe it is not a > bad idea to read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > 3. I am not looking for a "substitute for my brain's > function" either. > > I just asked a simple question. just delete it if you don't > want to answer. > > and I suggest you think more carefully before you lecture > people you > > don't know. > > I gave you an answer, despite not being paid for it. You can > appreciate that and take the other comments for granted, > doing with it what you think is right. You can think badly of > me and hope for somebody more polite to answer, disregarding > what I said, or you can lecture me like you do here and make > me think twice before opening a post of yours and answering > your question. > The fact that you feel insulted by me, suggesting that you > would regard us as a 'substitute ...', is a good sign. It > gives the feeling that you're willing to learn and find > things out for yourself, although in this case you didn't > manage. Reflect that in your posts. > I've seen to many which boiled down to 'please do my homework for me' > or 'make me avoid straining my neurons', and after the years > involved in mailing lists like these mails invoking such > feelings trigger a response like the one I gave or even > worse. Not a personal thing though; I don't even know you. > > I hope this settles things a bit. > > Cheers, > > Tsjerk > > > > > Mehmet > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Tsjerk Wassenaar <tsje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Tsjerk Wassenaar <tsje...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [PyMOL] solvent accessibility with pymol > > To: "Mehmet Cetin" <mmt...@yahoo.com> > > Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:43 AM > > > > Mehmet, > > > > Really, two days ago we got this post: > > > > --- > > Dear all, > > > > Is there any PyMOL command to calculate surface areas? > > Many thanks, > > > > Luisa Rodrigues > > --- > > > > And now you come with this: > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Mehmet Cetin > <mmt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, I am looking for a way to figure out the solvent > >> accessibility of a particular region on a protein. could > anyone tell > >> me if there is a command (or script) in Pymol that I can > use to do it? thanks in advance. > >> > > > > The answer given should be good enough for you. > > > > --- > > Did you try to search for information yourself first? > > > > Anyways, the pymolwiki.org > > > > is always a good place to go and then you would have found > something > > like this: > > http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Get_Area > > > > I hope this is what you are looking for? > > > > Best regards, > > Folmer Fredslund > > --- > > > > Please do bear in mind that we're not an easy substitute > for your own > > brains function! Before posting, search the internet, and > especially > > search on the wiki pages. Also, be sure to read the questions and > > answers that come by on this list as these may provide you answers > > before you know you were looking for them. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tsjerk > > > > > > -- > > Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D. > > Junior UD (post-doc) > > Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center > > Utrecht University > > Padualaan 8 > > 3584 CH Utrecht > > The Netherlands > > P: +31-30-2539931 > > F: +31-30-2537623 > > > > > > > > -- > Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D. > Junior UD (post-doc) > Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center > Utrecht University > Padualaan 8 > 3584 CH Utrecht > The Netherlands > P: +31-30-2539931 > F: +31-30-2537623 >
