Frieda,
 
Bill Scott has posted some additional information on X11 for Mac OS X that
might be useful:
 
>> I've put links to the various older X11 installs on this 
>> page, right- hand side:
>> 
>> http://xanana.ucsc.edu/xtal/x11.html
>> 
>> If a user needs to clean stuff up, deletion of /usr/X11R6, /etc/X11, /
>> Library/Receipts/X11*  and /Applications/Utilities is all 
>> that needs to be done.  No need for a clean install.
>> 
>> The fink packages for pymol and apbs are designed to play 
>> well together right out of the box, FWIW

> Does a PyMOL license entitle one to use a Win version of PyMOL as well as
Mac?

PyMOL builds are provided and maintained for subscribers on a per-user
basis, not per-platform.  As a subscribed user, you can use it on as many
different computers and operating systems as you like.  And if that strikes
you as too limiting, then you can always compile the open-source code
yourself ;).

It is only non-subscribers who are limited in terms of their rights to use
and their ability to access our precompiled PyMOL builds.  In both legal and
practical terms, it is they who *must* rely upon independent compilation of
the open source code in order to benefit from the latest features and
bug-fixes in PyMOL.  

That is the PyMOL open-source business model in a nutshell, and so long as
it pays the bills, we are sticking to it!

Cheers,
Warren


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        From: Frieda Reichsman [mailto:frie...@nsm.umass.edu] 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:09 AM
        To: DeLano Scientific
        Cc: 'Users List PyMOL'
        Subject: Re: [PyMOL] plug-ins on Mac OSX - X11?
        
        
        Thanks, this sounds do-able at some point. It will take me a few
days to get to this. In the meantime, if someone knows of another solution,
I'm all ears... 

        BTW, if I can access a Windows machine, is this an easier process?
On the "Obtain" web page, there seems to be only one Win (complied) version.
Does a PyMOL license entitle one to use a Win version of PyMOL as well as
Mac?


        On Mar 5, 2007, at 9:16 PM, DeLano Scientific wrote:


                Frieda,
                                We too have experienced problems ourselves
attempting to install X11 on Macintosh computers that have been patched
since the original Mac OS X install. The only sure fix we know of is to do a
clean OS install from the original CD, being sure to select the X11 option,
which is not enabled by default. Once X11 is installed, then subsequent
updates can safely be reinstalled.
                                Perhaps someone else on the mailing list
knows of an alternate way of getting X11 onto an existing Mac?
                                                --
                DeLano Scientific LLC
                Subscriber Support Services
                mailto:del...@delsci.info
                                                
                

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                        From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Frieda
Reichsman
                        Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:24 PM
                        To: Users List PyMOL
                        Subject: [PyMOL] plug-ins on Mac OSX - X11?
                        
                        
                        Dear PyMOL users, 

                        I am a newcomer to this list and largely to PyMOL. I
have a lot of experience with Jmol since my work is oriented toward
publishing on the web.

                        I would like to be able to generate surface MEP
coloring in PyMOL for proteins. I'm on Mac OSX 10.4, and I've
downloaded/installed APBS and the APBS plug-in for PyMOL. Then I realized I
had to install X11, so I found my original OSX 10.4 install discs, and have
tried installing X11 three times with no luck (twice tried a custom install
of X11 only, the third time I bit the bullet and installed the entire Xcode
tools package. Still no sign of X11 on my machine.) Has anyone experienced
this and found a way to deal with it?

                        I have already changed the name of MacPyMol.app to
PyMolX11Hybrid.app, as per the instructions on the web site, but when I open
the newly named pymol app, it asks me where X11 is...

                        Thanks in advance,
                        Frieda


        
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                        Molecules in Motion
                        Interactive Molecular Structures
                        http://www.moleculesinmotion.com

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        Frieda Reichsman, PhD

        Molecules in Motion

        Interactive Molecular Structures

        http://www.moleculesinmotion.com

        
        

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