> Pymol isn't very good at handling many spheres. 

Slanderous! ...but true with default settings.   However:

./pymol -O 1 monster_large_file.pdb 

Will enable PyMOL to display, manipulate, and render at least a million
spheres per GB of RAM.

Also try -O values up through 5 for alternate approaches for handling large
numbers of spheres.  -O 5 uses a shader program on cards which support it in
to create pixel-perfect OpenGL spheres.

(BTW that's a capital O, not a zero).

Cheers,
Warren

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf 
> Of Tsjerk Wassenaar
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:14 AM
> To: philippe.garteise...@ou.edu
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] problem: choking on big files
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> 
> Pymol isn't very good at handling many spheres. However, 
> Povray is extremely efficient with raytracing scenes 
> consisting of spheres and if you know the perspective you 
> want to have the image from, you can convert your atom set to 
> spheres (with desired radii) and apply the view from Pymol. 
> If you would like, I can send you the script (Povray
> macro) to export the Pymol view to Povray.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Tsjerk
> 
> On 7/25/06, philippe.garteise...@ou.edu 
> <philippe.garteise...@ou.edu> wrote:
> > Hi again, list.
> >
> > I need help on how to render an unconventional 
> (non-protein) pdb file with a big number of atoms in it. Even 
> with no display (console mode), pymol still crashes due to 
> insufficient memory.
> > A different hardware is out of the question and a smaller 
> file would defeat my purpose, so I would like to simplify the 
> representation. What i do is to 'show sphere', then 'set 
> sphere_scale,0.01'. However, it seems it takes the same 
> amount of memory for pymol to display small or large spheres 
> (i thought that by using very small sphere_scale, pymol would 
> tend to treat each atom more and more as a single pixel). The 
> dots representation is also very complex to display I 
> believe. In my case the line display can not be used either.
> >
> > Are there some settings to increase the memory allocated to pymol ?
> > Are there settings of the dots representation so that only 
> one dot is represented for each atom ?
> > Any additional ideas are of course welcome !
> >
> > Thanks in advance !
> >
> > Garteiser Philippe
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> >  - Tolkien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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