Daniel,

The projection system itself, including non-depolarizing screen, two 
projectors, projector stacker (ceilling mount or floor/tabletop, depending on 
you needs), filter holders for the projectors, filters and glasses can be done 
for less than $10K

I bought ours at ProjectorPoint (screen, projectors, filter holders and 
stacker), http://www.projectorpoint.com, and Reason, http://www.reasonco.com  
(filters and glasses), both Minneapolis-based companies.

You will of course also need a computer for the setup, and our Linux system / 
Nivida graphics is perfect for the purpose. Note that this solution requires a 
dual-head graphics board, and a driver capable of sending the two stereo images 
to separate displays. I have no experience with Macs, so I don't know if this 
is possible. 

If not, you can buy a splitter box, which splits the ususal page-flipped signal 
used for the shutter glases into separate left/right VGA signals. It is sold by 
a Norwegian vendor, I'll find the link if you are interested. BUT the price for 
the splitter box is high... (> $10K) You can probably buy a complete linux 
system with a Quadro FX3000 card for less than half of that :-)

So, I guess it should be possible to have a 3D-cinema running for less than 
$15K.

 
Cheers,

Esben



-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Moriarty
To: EPF (Esben Peter Friis)
Sent: 12-05-04 20:14
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations

Esben,

Your last line about a stereoscopic projector system intrigued me.  I
have
PyMOL running on my dual G5 with stereographic's crystalEyes system, and
my
students really enjoy using it.  I've had the department chair and the
dean
looking at this system, and they both really like it.  I wanted to bring
this fully into the classroom and use it not only in biochem, but also
in
inorganic and organic chemistry.  Unfortunately, to get a projector to
use
the Stereographic's system runs on the order of ~$25,000, and at that
point
it's another $7,000 for the system and glasses.

We already have a standard TFT projector in the classroom, so your
system of
two projectors sounds like a possibility.  I was wondering if you could
tell
me a little more about the system and it's setup.  This might be a more
reasonable way for me to go, as everyone loves the possibility of what I
can
do, but up to this point, I'm not sure they are willing to pony up over
30K
for it.


Thanks,

Dan

--
Dr. Daniel Moriarty
Siena College
Chemistry and Biochemistry Dept.
515 Loudon Road
Loudonville, NY 12211
(518) 783-2472
fax: (518) 276-4887


> From: "EPF (Esben Peter Friis)" <e...@novozymes.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:50:41 +0200
> To: <peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de>
> Cc: <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations
> 
> 
> Hi Peter 
> 
> 
> Your posting is a few weeks old, but I could see no replies yet, so
I'll try
> :-)
> 
> We have single-CPU Dell machines (3 GHz, 2GB RAM), but I suppose you
just buy
> CPU, disk and memory according to your needs (and money :-)
> 
> You don't write anything about OS, but according to your "ps" line, I
assume
> it is Linux. We use Nvidia Quadro FX3000 graphics, which I can
recommend. It
> is really fast (compared to our old SGIs), and the setup is
straightforward.
> Just download the driver from nvidia.com, run the installer, and add a
few
> things in the XF86Config file (see Nvidia readme file). We have
successfully
> tested the driver (including stereo support) with Pymol on the
following OSes:
> 
> RH 9.0 
> Fedora Core 1 
> Enterprise WS 3
> Windows XP
> 
> I have no experience with O, but Pymol, VMD and Accelrys insightII
graphics
> works fine i stereo.
> We use glasses from http://www.edimensional.com/, which are about $100
for
> emitter and glasses, and $50 for extra glasses w/o emitter. There is
also a
> "breakout" box for use with cheaper graphics cards, but if you use the
FX3000
> (or any other Quadro card), you just throw away the breakout box and
connect
> the emitter directly to the VESA stereo connector on the graphics
card.
> 
> We also have a 3D projection system with two projectors and
polarization
> filters. The Quadro cards are dual head, and the Nvidia driver is
capable of
> sending the L/R stereo images to different displays (requires
additional setup
> in XF86Config, again - see the readme file). So no problems here
either. (I
> haven't been able to make this work under Windows yet :-)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esben
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Haebel
>> Sent: 27. april 2004 10:00
>> To: war...@delanoscientific.com; al...@xray.bmc.uu.se
>> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net; o-i...@o-info.imsb.au.dk
>> Subject: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations
>> 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> we just considering to purchase new linux pcs and i would be
>> very interested 
>> in the latest hardware recommendations?
>> 
>> we are planning to use these machines for stereo
>> visualization with pymol and
>> O.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> peter
>> 
>> 
>> ps. has the pymol Xig Summit2.2 problem been resolved?
>> -- 
>>  ___________________________________________
>> 
>> Dr. Peter Haebel
>> 
>> Philipps-Universität Marburg
>> Institut für Pharmazeutische Chemie
>> Marbacher Weg 6
>> D-35032 Marburg
>> 
>> phone: +49-6421-28-25072
>> fax: +49-6421-28-28994
>> 
>> email: peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de
>> http://www.agklebe.de
>> 
>> 
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