On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 9:54 AM pzzcc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I want to avoid using SQLALCHEMY all together really to have a better 
> understanding of how things work inside pyramid for integrating the tool with 
> other tools already in place. so I think that is the correct route. once I 
> get this to work , I will have a deeper understanding of pyramid in general 
> which will help integrating that tool into the system we already have in place

If you get out of SQLAlchemy and the transaction manager, then you're
getting out of Pyramid's database toolchains. I.e., you're
DEintegrating, not integrating. What you'll learn is the low-level
database API (psycopg2, based on Python's DBAPI interface). That's
worth learning about if you like low-level close-to-the-metal tools.
It can do simple tasks fine, but large abstract concepts or large
development teams may do better with something high-level like
SQLAlchemy.

SQLAlchemy's creator, Michael Beyer, has given talks at several
Pycons, and is friends with the people who created Pylons and Pyramid.
He's a super-expert on SQL. So there's also value in benefiting from
his expertise when you use SQLAlchemy, and when you look at how
flexible SQLAlchemy can be. He also wrote the Mako template engine.

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