Haven't read this whole thread.   I just wanted to say that although I
personally will continue to use the old style of http.exceptions, I
think this addition will help people coming from other frameworks, as
the "redirect" and "abort" keywords are commonplace for such methods
on other frameworks.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Daniel Holth <dho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 'return' makes sense because views return a response. Whether the response
>> has an error code of 200, 301 or 5xx is a separate concern. Of course
>> exceptions make sense too.
>
> This only became an issue because HTTPException happens to be a WSGi
> application so it looks like a view return value. It would have been
> better if it were just an Exception subclass so there would be no
> question they should be raised and caught.
>
> In fact, I'm not even sure the body and headers of the HTTPException
> should be honored; it's really the job of the framework to decide how
> to display HTTP errors (possibly using a plugin such as an error-view
> to customize it). in Pylons, if the StatusCodeRedirect middleware is
> active, it makes a subrequest. If it's not active, something in Pylons
> or Paste generates a plain error message including the title,
> description, and (in debug mode) the exception's 'message' argument.
> It's certainly not the responsibility of the code that discovers an
> inconsistency necessitating a 4xx or 5xx error to style it: the error
> is rarely the main purpose of the function; it's just something the
> function wants to get rid of as quickly as possible.
>
> If the view really wants to RETURN a 4xx or 5xx condition, it can set
> 'request.response_status_int' the normal way rather than invoking
> HTTPException. Or it can instantiate the exception and pass it to an
> application-making function that would turn it into a WSGI application
> (something like the HTTPException constructor), and return that.
>
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